I was getting ready to disagree with you, but then I saw that all the anime that I was going to suggest you add were in your, “I didn’t watch” list. I tend to prefer SoL, so it’s no surprise our lists would be different.
Somehow one of the first times I've heard the take that monogatari dropped off, funny that you dropped it (assuming your mal is up to date) right before the arc most fans consider the best in the series.
I don't watch enough animu to be an authority figure but here are my thoughts:
1. ATLA and epecially Arcane are not Anime. Arcane doesn't even have an eastern art style. It's no more of an anime than Batman TAS (which I bring up for a reason, as it is one of the few Western animated TV shows that is as critically acclaimed as top Anime). RWBY is also arguably not Anime as it is entirely 3D Animated (right?)
2. Dragon Ball is obviously better than Spy Family and Naruto, and yet it is not on this list. If you don't like the pacing, watch Kai. It is more true to the manga anyways, and it has better animation. Naruto is kind of just some annoying kid, meanwhile Goku is such a paragon of moral purity that I suspect his influence has lowered the violent crime rate in Latin America almost as much as Jesus Christ...
As far as anime is concerned I'm fairly loose about the definition, I consider it to be a stylistic and cultural category rather than a strict regional one.
> Dragon Ball is obviously better than Spy Family and Naruto, and yet it is not on this list. If you don't like the pacing, watch Kai.
It was the pacing that turned me off from Z. Perhaps Kai is different in that respect but I, admittedly, have not watched it. The original's pacing didn't bother me as much for some reason, but even so it would barely crack the top 100 anime series.
My recommendation is to watch the original Kai run, which means every Kai episode before the 7-year timeskip. Everything after that is contained in "Kai: The Final Chapters". If you really liked the Cell and Frieza arcs, then continue, but don't feel too much pressure. The Buu Saga is a bit slower and is less consistent. Although I like the Buu Saga, I consider the Cell Games to be the spiritual conclusion to Dragon Ball. It is what Toriyama had originally intended, and it is the completion of Goku's character.
Shinji is whinny and weak. I don't think most people would cum on their comatose friend. The problem is he never improves, he's the same weak loser from start to finish (except in the film but that's also where he cums on Asuka), which is boring it's not subjective it's objectively bad writing to keep your lead unlikeable the whole time. It having a cult of autistic losers doesn't mean it's good.
Why call it top 100 best anime when some of your list you call mid? Why finish watching mid anime? Just keep it to like 10 or something.
Absolutely abysmal list in that it totally fails to deliver on your thesis statement (“conforming to human values” etc). Many of these valorise anti-social aesthetics and values, like outsiderhood, being a perpetual child that never grows up, distrusting the social order, being a gooner, incest, antinatalism etc. This feels like it captures the values of a 15 year old boy who despises the other kids because they “don’t understand” him. Also youve even failed to follow your own format by counting Angels Egg in the “series” category.
-Antidegenerate: Shinsekai Yori, ATLA, Welcome to the NHK, Legend of the Galactic Heroes, Monster
Bottom 20/5
- Degenerate: Garden of Words, Wicked City, Tokyo Godfathers, The Garden of Sinners III, The Garden of Sinners Future Gospel, Yuri on Ice!, Kill la Kill, Tokyo Ghoul, Re:Zero, Hellsing
- Neutral: Eden of the East, Kino no Tabi, Haibane Renmei, Arcane, Naruto, Gintama, Kaiji, March Comes Like a Lion, Terror In Resonance, Gankutsuo, Mushishi, Zetsuen no Tempest
-Antidegenerate: Promised Neverland (debatable), Spy X Family (also debatable)
If anything, it seems that degenerate series are overrepresented in the bottom of the overall list.
Thats a bit like saying “my list of the 100 most moral people succeeds despite having a serial killer at #1, because there are more serial killers at the bottom of the list than the top.” There are many famous and influential high grade anime series that are far more antidegenerate than anything on this list.
Shinji is is not weak, but petulant and pathetic. He throws tantrums about having to kill giant disgusting aliens that want humanity dead. He thinks a gay albino who touched his arm one time loves him and cries a river about having to squish him. It was really disappointing that at no point during the show or the movies did any other character have the courage to snap his neck.
The ending of the TV show is grade school pop psychology. "Feel better about yourself man" *smokes blunt*.
The general tone of the show and the movie is all over the place. Dumb grade school action schlock half the time, some thoughtful stuff here about adult relationships here and there, a couple snippets of what might be good horror science fiction if it was focused on, and then sections lifted from a self help book.
A lot of aforementioned pop psychology rests on really confusing character motivations half the time. The blonde scientist lady was really hung up on being in love with Shinji's dad... even thought the two of them never talk. Suuuuuure.
Populist defense of Naruto: it doesn't deserve a higher place on the list. It has many obvious flaws: Shippuden, fillers, long, childish, immature, boring, slow-paced, plastic, bad animation. However, for the intended audience I think it has had a powerful effect. Naruto vs Sasuke and the Chunin exams were impactful.
Where I am disappointed is that Dragon Ball Z is not on the list, although it is the most populist form of anime of all time, with no deep themes and just a bunch of 12 year old boy excitement.
you are a retarded gaijin plotslave without the element of nihilism in your viewing of anime, you will never get anime, you will never have good taste.
DEATH NOTE 🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️
I was getting ready to disagree with you, but then I saw that all the anime that I was going to suggest you add were in your, “I didn’t watch” list. I tend to prefer SoL, so it’s no surprise our lists would be different.
Somehow one of the first times I've heard the take that monogatari dropped off, funny that you dropped it (assuming your mal is up to date) right before the arc most fans consider the best in the series.
Any thoughts on Gintama? It dominates the MyAnimeList chart, it doesn’t seem consistent enough to merit that. I see it is at 71 on your quality list.
It aged badly.
I don't watch enough animu to be an authority figure but here are my thoughts:
1. ATLA and epecially Arcane are not Anime. Arcane doesn't even have an eastern art style. It's no more of an anime than Batman TAS (which I bring up for a reason, as it is one of the few Western animated TV shows that is as critically acclaimed as top Anime). RWBY is also arguably not Anime as it is entirely 3D Animated (right?)
2. Dragon Ball is obviously better than Spy Family and Naruto, and yet it is not on this list. If you don't like the pacing, watch Kai. It is more true to the manga anyways, and it has better animation. Naruto is kind of just some annoying kid, meanwhile Goku is such a paragon of moral purity that I suspect his influence has lowered the violent crime rate in Latin America almost as much as Jesus Christ...
>ATLA and epecially Arcane are not Anime.
As far as anime is concerned I'm fairly loose about the definition, I consider it to be a stylistic and cultural category rather than a strict regional one.
> Dragon Ball is obviously better than Spy Family and Naruto, and yet it is not on this list. If you don't like the pacing, watch Kai.
It was the pacing that turned me off from Z. Perhaps Kai is different in that respect but I, admittedly, have not watched it. The original's pacing didn't bother me as much for some reason, but even so it would barely crack the top 100 anime series.
My recommendation is to watch the original Kai run, which means every Kai episode before the 7-year timeskip. Everything after that is contained in "Kai: The Final Chapters". If you really liked the Cell and Frieza arcs, then continue, but don't feel too much pressure. The Buu Saga is a bit slower and is less consistent. Although I like the Buu Saga, I consider the Cell Games to be the spiritual conclusion to Dragon Ball. It is what Toriyama had originally intended, and it is the completion of Goku's character.
Never got why it is so popular in Latam and among POC in general. Always found it kinda boring, but liked the pink thingy arc.
Shinji is whinny and weak. I don't think most people would cum on their comatose friend. The problem is he never improves, he's the same weak loser from start to finish (except in the film but that's also where he cums on Asuka), which is boring it's not subjective it's objectively bad writing to keep your lead unlikeable the whole time. It having a cult of autistic losers doesn't mean it's good.
Why call it top 100 best anime when some of your list you call mid? Why finish watching mid anime? Just keep it to like 10 or something.
have u watched psycho pass? i was hoping it would be in the list
I like your list! Mushi-shi is my fav so that was a small stab in the heart though. I like the boring ones.
I see you didn't consider Fantastic Children or Maison Ikkoku or Paranoia Agent or Escaflowne.. so you're list is bad. Sorry ✌🏻
Texnholyze, had been putting off watching that one for a while. Heard its quite depressing.
Angel's Egg is a recent addition to me, quite trippy aesthetics/plotline.
What about Yu-Gi-Oh!?
Absolutely abysmal list in that it totally fails to deliver on your thesis statement (“conforming to human values” etc). Many of these valorise anti-social aesthetics and values, like outsiderhood, being a perpetual child that never grows up, distrusting the social order, being a gooner, incest, antinatalism etc. This feels like it captures the values of a 15 year old boy who despises the other kids because they “don’t understand” him. Also youve even failed to follow your own format by counting Angels Egg in the “series” category.
You're right, I mistakenly labelled Angel's egg as a series so I do not understand the format by which I came to this rank. I apologize.
No thoughts on my primary point?
It's... Not true?
Compare the top 20 series/top 5 movies vs bottom 20 series/bottom 5 movies:
Top 20/5:
- Degenerate: Evangelion, Steins;Gate, Berserk, Great Teacher Onizuka, FLCL, HunterXHunter, Ergo Proxy, end of Eva, Ouran HSHC, Blue Gender
- Neutral: Death Note, Fullmetal Alchemist, Tatami Galaxy, Cowboy Bebop, Planetes, Fate/Zero, Gurren Lagann, Nana, Perfect Blue, Princess Mononoke, Spirited Away, Paprika
-Antidegenerate: Shinsekai Yori, ATLA, Welcome to the NHK, Legend of the Galactic Heroes, Monster
Bottom 20/5
- Degenerate: Garden of Words, Wicked City, Tokyo Godfathers, The Garden of Sinners III, The Garden of Sinners Future Gospel, Yuri on Ice!, Kill la Kill, Tokyo Ghoul, Re:Zero, Hellsing
- Neutral: Eden of the East, Kino no Tabi, Haibane Renmei, Arcane, Naruto, Gintama, Kaiji, March Comes Like a Lion, Terror In Resonance, Gankutsuo, Mushishi, Zetsuen no Tempest
-Antidegenerate: Promised Neverland (debatable), Spy X Family (also debatable)
If anything, it seems that degenerate series are overrepresented in the bottom of the overall list.
Thats a bit like saying “my list of the 100 most moral people succeeds despite having a serial killer at #1, because there are more serial killers at the bottom of the list than the top.” There are many famous and influential high grade anime series that are far more antidegenerate than anything on this list.
Not liking the ending of AoT is a sign of left-wing political values. You’re not as RW as you make yourself out to be.
For what it’s worth, I polled my followers on the ending on my old twitter account and most of them disliked it too.
Valid criticisms of Evangelion:
Shinji is is not weak, but petulant and pathetic. He throws tantrums about having to kill giant disgusting aliens that want humanity dead. He thinks a gay albino who touched his arm one time loves him and cries a river about having to squish him. It was really disappointing that at no point during the show or the movies did any other character have the courage to snap his neck.
The ending of the TV show is grade school pop psychology. "Feel better about yourself man" *smokes blunt*.
The general tone of the show and the movie is all over the place. Dumb grade school action schlock half the time, some thoughtful stuff here about adult relationships here and there, a couple snippets of what might be good horror science fiction if it was focused on, and then sections lifted from a self help book.
A lot of aforementioned pop psychology rests on really confusing character motivations half the time. The blonde scientist lady was really hung up on being in love with Shinji's dad... even thought the two of them never talk. Suuuuuure.
Populist defense of Naruto: it doesn't deserve a higher place on the list. It has many obvious flaws: Shippuden, fillers, long, childish, immature, boring, slow-paced, plastic, bad animation. However, for the intended audience I think it has had a powerful effect. Naruto vs Sasuke and the Chunin exams were impactful.
Where I am disappointed is that Dragon Ball Z is not on the list, although it is the most populist form of anime of all time, with no deep themes and just a bunch of 12 year old boy excitement.
you are a retarded gaijin plotslave without the element of nihilism in your viewing of anime, you will never get anime, you will never have good taste.
Why so angry?